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The law provided for Rowley to write to the reg-
istrar of the commission requesting such a meeting,
he said, and there was "a very comprehensive,
detailed procedural code" for an official in public
life to request a meeting with the commission.
A letter should be written to the registrar for
such a meeting to take place, he said.
"You cannot arrogate unto yourself the right to
visit the chairman at his home, to be calling for
him, as Gordon claims. That is not the way to do
it."Such action, he felt, "undermines the rule of law
and the Integrity in Public Life Act and the inde-
pendence of the process."
Ramlogan asked what the population would have
Gordon in similar circumstances.
He said Rowley was "the subject of or part" of
the police investigation into the e-mail scandal and
ought not to have sought such an audience at Gor-
don s home.
Rowley was referred to the Committee of Priv-
ileges for alleged contempt after presenting the 31
e-mails to the House. That probe is still taking
Ramlogan said he also wanted to know why Gor-
don met with Rowley, "who is the central protagonist
in the e-mail fiasco and a possible subject of inves-
tigation by the commission."
He said he was "deeply concerned" about the
meeting, as it would give rise to "grave public dis-
quiet," and it was significant that the meeting took
place shortly before the no-confidence motion
Also of note, he said, was that the meeting took
place when "there is in fact no Integrity Commis-
sion." Under the Integrity in Public Life Act, he
said, a chairman or a deputy chairman and at least
two other members would comprise a quorum.
The AG said if the e-mail issue reaches the com-
mission for investigation, Gordon may have to
He insisted that the Government was prepared
for any investigative body, national or international,
to probe the e-mails, and maintained they were
fabricated by the PNM.
Gordon was unavailable for comment when the
T&T Guardian tried to reach him yesterday, as calls
to his phone went unanswered. However, on Thurs-
day, he released an aide-memoir of the meeting
between himself and Rowley through the commis-
sion s registrar, Martin Farrell.
Saturday, June 15, 2013 www.guardian.co.tt Guardian
Roodal: Knowsley to be PM's permanent home
to host Rowley
The Office of the President may be
moved to Whitehall, and Knowsley will
soon permanently house the Office of the
Prime Minister (OPM), says Dr Roodal
The OPM s move from Whitehall to its
present building at St Clair was always
temporary, Moonilal said yesterday.
He was explaining why Knowsley was
no longer available for use by the Office of
Knowsley, he said, was only used by the
President for hosting visits from ambas-
sadors and as a storage facility.
Formerly the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
Knowsley was terribly underutilised, he
"It is a matter of practical convenience
for the PM, the PM s staff and departments
in the OPM," he said.
Moonilal, the Minister of Housing, Land
and Marine Affairs, said the current space
at St Clair is too cramped for the OPM and
is even too cramped for Minister in the
Office of the PM Rodger Samuel.
Knowsley, however, has more than
50,000 square feet of office space which
would better accommodate the OPM.
The Office of the President is currently
housed in a building on the grounds of
President s House. That space, he said, is
He described Whitehall as a good facility
for the Office of the President.
Asked about the planned restoration of
Whitehall, Moonilal said the Urban Devel-
opment Corporation (Udecott) had been
doing a lot of paperwork and determining
the scope of work to be done on the historic
building, and along with his ministry, had
been looking at international companies
that specialise in restoration.
"We are doing due diligence with firms
in Italy, Germany and France to look at
capacity with a view to engaging these spe-
cialised firms in the restoration effort---at
least for consultancy, if not full-fledged
restoration," he said.
Restoration work, he said, was extremely
delicate, scientific and costly.
"It is cheaper, at times, to build a new
building than to restore a historical building.
We are, therefore, looking for the best
expertise," he said.
There is also work to be done on the
building known as the cottage at President s
House, where former President George
Maxwell Richards lived.
Moonilal said the upper floor needed to
be outfitted and redesigned to cater for
new President Anthony Carmona, and this
will be done by the Housing Development
Corporation (HDC). Carmona and his family
will then move from their temporary home
at Flagstaff, Long Circular, which Moonilal
said was "very interim."
Once all measures were put in place, he
estimated the HDC should take approxi-
mately two months to get the job done.
Whitehall was restored in 1998 by former
prime minster Basdeo Panday, he said, but
less than a decade later the office had to
"Clearly, the works done were not the
best," Moonilal said.
That is why the ministry is looking
abroad, he said, to find the institutional
capacity for restoration and maintenance.
Moonilal said he would speak to Minister
of Tertiary Education and Skills Training
Fazal Karim about strengthening the capac-
ity to restore buildings.
Current space cramped
The Environmental Management Authority
(EMA) has asked us to clarify that Dr Joth Singh,
the EMA's MD/CEO, was not present at a meeting
with the German company Oldendorff Carriers.
EMA chairman Allan Bachan attended the
meeting. (Yesterday, Page A9)
GETTING IT RIGHT
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley yes-
terday confirmed he had a meeting with
Integrity Commission chairman Ken Gor-
don, at the latter s Glencoe home, to dis-
cuss the e-mails in relation to the Section
34 fiasco, before he took the matter to the
He said he did not see anything wrong
An aide-memoire of the meeting between
Rowley and Gordon, compiled by Gordon,
was released by the commission s registrar,
Farrell said Gordon had passed it to him
shortly after the meeting.
The text reads:
"At the end of a meeting at the offices of the
Integrity Commission on Wednesday 15th May I
received a telephone message from my
secretary that the Leader of the Opposition Dr
Keith Rowley had called me at approximately
"He requested an 'urgent meeting.' He asked
that I return his call and left his cell number to
facilitate my doing so.
"I attempted to reach him without success
and left a message on his answering machine.
"Not having heard from him (by 6 pm) and
mindful of the urgency expressed earlier I tried
again to reach him and this time did so.
"He (Rowley) stated that he was on his way
home and that the 'urgency' still existed. Since
we live in the same general area I suggested
that he could stop over to see me on his way
home. He did so and arrived some ten minutes
later. I offered him a drink which he declined and
we moved straight to the business of the
"He advised that prior to former President
Richards' departure he (Dr Rowley) brought to
the President's attention a matter he considered
to be very serious.
"Dr Rowley had reason to believe that the
President may in turn have brought such matter
to the attention of the Integrity Commission.
Now with more than two months having
elapsed Dr Rowley proposes to embark upon a
certain course of action. He is therefore,
enquiring whether the matter he had referred to
President Richards had been passed to the
"I reminded Dr Rowley that it is not the
practice of the commission to disclose the
matters which are before the commission. Even
more significantly it was pointed out that the
four new appointments to the commission had
not as yet been made by President Carmona.
While non-policy day-to-day operations continue
to be addressed by the commission, until the
new commissioners are appointed and sworn in
new matters cannot be addressed until at least
a quorum exists. The matter which he had
referred to former President Richards is not
therefore before the Integrity Commission."
Rowley was on fact-finding mission
Dr Roodal Moonilal
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