Home' Trinidad and Tobago Guardian : July 14th 2013 Contents A UNC supporter embraces his dog while waving a flag during a walkabout in Caroni village on Friday.
PHOTO: SHASTRI BOODAN
Isn t that the perception people
would gather reading what you
have just said?
If they understand the English
very well, they will know what I
am saying is perceived...it is like
a judge who must not only be fair
but must be seen to be fair.
Let s take it to another level,
You have worked with every
one of the government ministers
mentioned in this affair. Do you
believe any one of them is capable
of undertaking such a vicious
(A contemplative pause and
speaking in a low tone) In politics
when one is desperate, history is
replete with examples that they
have committed murder. Anything
I am not saying that they are
desperate, but several of them have
refused to hand over their com-
But didn t they say they are
willing to do so but not without
receiving certain assurances?
So they don t trust their own
police? Do they think the police
would tamper with the evidence?
Mr Panday, I know you have
your problems with this govern-
ment so I want an unbiased
answer, on a scale of one to ten,
how would you rate the perform-
ance of the Government?
I have no problem with anybody.
(Speaking to photographer Rishi
Ragoonath) You see how clever he
is, he slips things in, and if I didn t
catch him right at the point he
would print that I have a problem
with...I have no problem. Mr
Raphael, you know I don t have a
spiteful bone in my body. You
asked me how do I rate them, I
would say ten on a scale of one to
100 (with a poker face).
You have had your problems
with this government and per-
haps you still do, but did you in
your wildest political dreams ever
thought we would have been fac-
ing a by-election today?
No. What I knew was that what
goes around comes around.
By my own experience...what
they did to the UNC; when they
kidnapped it and murdered it.
A couple years ago you said the
UNC had died...
They took it when they rigged
the internal elections.
So they stole the elections, and
I predicted that within six months
UNC would die and it did die. It
died in the sense that it no longer
believes in the things it stood for.
Isn t that sour grapes on your
I don t know what kind of grapes
is that. I am just telling you the
truth, and really (heavy chuckling),
I always prefer my grapes ferment-
Mr Panday, between the PP,
the MSJ, PNM, DNA, ILP which
of these is best suited to carry
this country forward?
None of the above.
Finally Sir, Mr Warner has been
asked to say how he is funding
his campaign. Is that a fair ques-
Is it a question he could answer?
I don t know. Maybe the man can-
not answer the question. So in that
case, it is unfair if he cannot answer
it (a cynical burst of laughter).
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Let me just ask you one question:
Suppose there is a general election
tomorrow, what difference will it make
to the people? We will carry on as we
have been for the last 50 years. The
only answer is an elected president who
chooses his Cabinet, he is head of state
and the government, and he would
have his proposals every year of what
he is going to do.
He takes these proposals to a uni-
cameral Parliament which is made up
of 100 persons elected on the basis of
Where are you going with this idea,
Do you know what this is going to
do? People will move away from racial
and ethnic voting, they will now vote
along interest lines; the farmers, the
taxi drivers, the coconut vendors, the
businessman and so on.
But Mr Raphael, you know some-
thing, both the Opposition and the
Government do not want constitutional
reform because they want to rely on
ethnic affinities in order to get political
Are you suggesting that the PP
administration is pulling wool over
people s eyes in their reform exercise?
(Emphatically) Yes. I certainly do
Are you speaking from a position
of bias or a very passionate stance?
As dispassionate as I can get, and I
say that because of the way the exercise
is being done by calling people into a
room, giving them a very limited time
to say how to reform the Constitution.
That cannot be right. You only have to
take a look at the society from day to
day and you will see what the problems
What are you getting at?
Take for example, one present prob-
lem, this e-mail thing. There is a fight
as to who is independent and where it
so forth. Under a reformed Constitution
the Parliament will be separate from
the government and it will be large
enough to be able to set up committees
to investigate acts of the government.
Seeing you have jumped me on this
e-mail bacchanal, do you believe the
e-mails are genuine?
I don t know. I thought that was the
whole purpose of the investigation...to
find out, and that it must not only be
fair and free from bias but which appear
to be free and fair by everybody.
Are you saying the investigation
was being done in a biased manner?
It can be perceived to be biased
because it is being done under the aus-
pices of a Commissioner of Police who
is waiting to be confirmed.
You know Mr Panday, I am sur-
prised at this stand you have taken?
(Interrupting) Oh, you mustn t be
surprised about any stand I take, and
I take it because I believe it.
Mr Panday, aren t you impugning
improper motive on the...?
(Vigorously objecting) No. No. No.
You are missing my point. I am saying
it should appear to be without bias,
and with the acting CoP sitting and
waiting to be confirmed as Commis-
sioner of Police, people would not be
convinced that it is not without bias.
The point I am making is perception.
You are saying you do not trust the
No. I am not saying that at all.
'Perception of bias in e-mail probe'
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Former prime minister Basdeo Panday.
PHOTO: RISHI RAGOONATH
In politics when one is
desperate, history is replete
with examples that they
have committed murder.
Anything is possible."
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